S11E03: Working with Learning

We’re joined by special guest host and public engagement champion Clare Lawlor as we talk about learning in museums and at heritage sites. How do we talk to kids about difficult topics? What kind of learning spaces do we have access to? And what kind of magic happens when conservators and learning colleagues work together? Also tune in for a review of ‘The Conservation of Medieval Polychrome Wood Sculpture’ and an interview with Jessica England from GEM.

02:10 Definitions and the importance of young visitors
09:13 Jenny’s little museum shop anecdote
11:46 Making learning visible
13:51 Talking to kids about heavy topics
20:22 Working with conservation on new galleries
28:51 Learning spaces
40:22 Kloe and Jenny’s experiences of working with learning teams
47:47 Interview with Jessica England
51:29 Review: The Conservation of Medieval Polychrome Wood Sculpture

Show Notes:
– Follow Clare on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_Clare_Lawlor
– Imperial War Museums: https://www.iwm.org.uk/
– Learning with IWM: https://www.iwm.org.uk/learning
– S07E04 Working with Techs: https://thecword.show/2020/05/27/s07e04-working-with-techs/
– S09E01 Working with Front of House: https://thecword.show/2021/03/24/s09e01-working-with-front-of-house/
– S10E02 Working with Curators: https://thecword.show/2021/09/29/s10e02-working-with-curators/
– The new Holocaust galleries mentioned: https://www.iwm.org.uk/events/the-holocaust-galleries
– S02E08 Food: https://thecword.show/2017/11/29/s02e08-food/
– GEM: https://gem.org.uk/
– The Conservation of Medieval Polychrome Wood Sculpture – History, Theory, Practice: https://shop.getty.edu/products/the-conservation-of-medieval-polychrome-wood-sculpture-history-theory-practice-978-1606066553

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S11E02: Standards in Conservation

Together with special guest hosts Dr David Leigh and Dr Isobel Griffin we delve into the world of conservation standards: what are they, how do they come into being, and how are we using them? Kloe also talks to Jane Henderson about the importance of having many voices in the room and when people might start waving pitchforks around, and Jenny reviews ‘Greener Solvents in Conservation.’

00:03:01 Standards in day-to-day life as well as conservation
00:07:47 The birth of a standard
00:15:04 Reviews and the implications
00:17:53 Standards in the pipeline
00:23:03 Diversity in decision making
00:29:18 How to access standards for FREE
00:33:59 Professional standards or codes of practice vs established standards
00:36:29 The bewildering array of information in the world
00:42:45 Come contribute!
00:43:02 Interview with Jane Henderson
00:58:45 Review: Greener Solvents in Conservation – An Introductory Guide
01:03:58 Patreon shout-out

Show Notes:
– B/560 Conservation of Tangible Cultural Heritage committee: https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/committees/50001857
– British Standards Institute: https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/
– European Standards: https://www.en-standard.eu/
– Swedish Institute for Standards: https://www.sis.se/en/
– Standards bodies definition and list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standards_organization
– Helen Hughes on working on standards: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/helen-hughes-acr-working-on-site-during-coronavirus.html
– Icon Documentation Network: https://www.icon.org.uk/groups-and-networks/documentation-network.html
– Greatest hits book: https://www.beuth.de/en/publication/din-handbook-410/308401223
– Icon professional standards: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/resources-for-conservation-professionals/standards-and-ethics/icon-professional-standards.html
– What conservation standards are: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/resources-for-conservation-professionals/standards-and-ethics/conservation-standards.html
– ISO Standards: https://www.iso.org/standards.html
– Spectrum collections management standard: https://collectionstrust.org.uk/spectrum/
– GIS standards: https://www.gistandards.eu/gis-standards/
– Royal Society of Chemistry Analytical Methods Committee: https://www.rsc.org/membership-and-community/connect-with-others/through-interests/divisions/analytical/amc/
– ASHRAE handbook for engineers: https://www.ashrae.org/technical-resources/ashrae-handbook
– AIC Wiki: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Main_Page
– CCI Notes: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes.html
– More on standards regarding built heritage: https://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/standards/standards.htm
– The Pitfalls and Possibilities of Standardisation (talk by Jane Henderson): https://markk-hamburg.de/from-conservation-to-conversation/workshop-contributions/
– James Acaster on the absurdity of the British Empire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73PkUvArJY
– S08E03 Returning Cultural Objects: https://thecword.show/2020/10/14/s08e03-returning-cultural-objects/
– Buy ‘Greener Solvents in Conservation’ from the publisher: https://archetype.co.uk/our-titles/greener-solvents-in-conservation/?id=380
– Download ‘Greener Solvents in Conservation’ for FREE: https://www.siconserve.org/greener-solvents/greener-solvents-hand-book/

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S11E01: Conservation and Conflict

With the help of special guest host Lisa Mol we talk about the impact of war and conflict on heritage: from stone research and training initiatives and all the way to saving Ukrainian digital heritage en-masse. We’re also joined by Emma Cunliffe from Blue Shield, Sarah Stannage from IIC, and Richard Mulholland from Northumbria University as we discuss what’s being done already and try to figure out how we can all help.

00:01:31 Explosives meet geology
00:05:50 Training over intervention
00:10:58 Priorities in war and its aftermath
00:16:13 Interview with Emma Cunliffe at Blue Shield
00:27:13 When is damage itself heritage?
00:32:08 Saving Ukraine’s digital heritage
00:37:58 Looting
00:43:44 Interview with Sarah Stannage from IIC
00:50:13 Other funding, support and resources re: Ukraine
00:51:21 Addendum time!
00:53:05 Comfort-a-Conservator
00:55:59 Interview with Richard Mulholland
01:07:45 Go forth and do good

Show Notes:
– Heritage in the Crossfire: https://www.heritageinthecrossfire.com/
– Get in touch with Dr Lisa Mol: https://people.uwe.ac.uk/Person/LisaMol
– S01E10 Salvage: https://thecword.show/2017/07/05/s01e10-salvage/
– Blue Shield International: https://theblueshield.org/
– Blue Shield UK: http://ukblueshield.org.uk/
– Emma’s blog entry about her new book: https://boydellandbrewer.com/blog/heraldry-and-genealogy/safeguarding-cultural-property-in-the-1954-hague-convention-all-possible-steps/
– ‘Safeguarding Cultural Property and the 1954 Hague Convention’ by Emma Cunliffe and Paul Fox: https://boydellandbrewer.com/9781783276660/safeguarding-cultural-property-and-the-1954-hague-convention/
– Examples of churches in Europe left in ruin after WW2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ruins_of_churches_destroyed_during_World_War_II
– Frederik Rosén’s publication list (as mentioned by Lisa): https://www.heritageconflict.org/frederik
– Saving Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Online (SUCHO): https://www.sucho.org/
– Iraq Museum Looting 15 Years On: https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/04/10/iraq-museum-looting–15-years-on.html
– IIC Opportunities Fund: https://www.iiconservation.org/about/awards/opportunities
– IIC official Ukraine update page: https://www.iiconservation.org/content/how-ukraine-moving-protect-its-cultural-heritage-updated-22-march-2022
– Nordiska Museet fund for Ukrainian museums: https://www.nordiskamuseet.se/artiklar/ekonomisk-insamling-att-radda-ukrainas-kulturarv
– Call for supplies for Ukrainian heritage protection: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/supplies-needed-to-protect-ukraine-s-cultural-heritage.html
– Icon’s Support for Ukraine page: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/support-for-ukraine-conserving-cultural-heritage.html
– Icon’s Ukraine event on March 24th 2022: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/ukraine-supporting-cultural-heritage-and-conservation-colleagues.html
– About Richard’s work: https://research.northumbria.ac.uk/VisualMaterialCultures/?page_id=534
– Richard’s paper in Studies in Conservation: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epub/10.1080/00393630.2022.2025706?needAccess=true

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S10E08: Christmas Special

Let’s get into the festive spirit with our special co-host Anna Ploszajski as we explore festive facts, Christmas chemistry, and merry materials! We make some predictions for the year ahead, and of course there’s a collections themed holiday song to bob along to. Happy holidays!

00:02:43 Hideous treasures all around us
00:11:13 Christmas tree decorations – old and new!
00:22:31 Tinsel themed nightmares
00:26:42 Lights, candles, and twinkly stuff
00:34:25 Tableware for days
00:40:21 Cakes and puddings
00:42:34 Christmas crackers
00:49:10 Fake snow and leaky snowglobes
00:53:23 Last year’s predictions and ones for 2022
01:01:11 Rocking Around the Christmas Tree (Museum Version)

Show Notes:
– Find out more about Anna’s work: https://www.annaploszajski.com/
– The aroma of Christmas trees: https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/12/19/christmastrees/
– Mr Bean vs the ornaments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91IK06uv5E
– The evolution of tinsel: http://www.compoundchem.com/2017advent/2017advent24/
– How silvering is achieved: https://www.compoundchem.com/2017/09/06/silver-mirror/
– S09E05 Dynamic Objects: https://thecword.show/2021/05/19/s09e05-dynamic-objects/
– S02E08 Food: https://thecword.show/2017/11/29/s02e08-food/
– V&A blog about the history of crackers: https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-christmas-cracker
– Christmas cracker chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2013/12/24/christmas-cracker-chemistry/
– How wrapping paper is made: http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Wrapping-Paper.html
– Fake snow chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2017advent/2017advent7/
– Museum Freelance network closes: https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2021/11/museum-freelance-network-to-close/
– Go buy Anna’s book: https://www.annaploszajski.com/book
– Jenny reviewing Anna’s book in a previous episode: https://thecword.show/2021/05/19/s09e05-dynamic-objects/

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Rocking Around the Christmas Tree: the Museum Version (lyrics by Jenny Mathiasson and Morgan Fox; vocals by Skye)

Skulkin’ around the gallery
At the Christmas working do
Watching for spills that you can see
Or objects gone askew

Walkin’ around the Christmas tree
Let pheromone pest traps swing
Later we’ll sneak some extra tea
And we’ll do some tidying

You will get a sentimental feeling when you hear
Voices going, where’s that dolly?
Pop that object on this trolley

Wrappin’ things up in acid free
For a popular display
Everyone chattin’ happily
Raiding gift shop and cafe

You will get a sentimental feeling when you hear
Voices going, where’s that dolly?
Pop that object on this trolley

Walkin’ around our objects store
Seein’ a thing not put away
Finally hoovering the floor
Roll on the holiday!

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S10E07: Rationalisation and Disposal

Sometimes museums just can’t keep everything – so what happens then? Together with guest host Emma Duggan we explore both the practicalities and our feelings around objects leaving collections. Also tune in for an interview with Ian Channell and Abigail Johnson from Epping Forest District Museum about their museum’s rationalisation journey.

00:01:58 Our experiences with rationalisation of collections
00:07:17 Why might something leave a collection?
00:10:48 Taking in objects with limited life spans
00:15:17 Knowing what you’ve got
00:23:07 Resources and guidance
00:25:56 Where does conservation fit into this?
00:29:45 Scrutiny of the public and people’s opinions
00:34:38 Interview: Ian Channell and Abigail Johnson
01:01:00 Bite-sized is fine
01:06:28 The issue of institutional memory
01:09:30 We can’t collect like we used to
01:18:49 Language matters – what do we call this process?
01:20:35 Finding new homes for objects

Show Notes:
– S09E02 Extreme Storage: https://thecword.show/2021/04/07/s09e02-extreme-storage/
– An example of why selling your collection is a bad idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton_Sekhemka_statue
– Museums Association Disposal Tool Kit: https://www.museumsassociation.org/campaigns/collections/disposal-toolkit/
– Collections Trust resource page on deaccessioning and disposal: https://collectionstrust.org.uk/spectrum-resources/deaccession-and-disposal/
– The sculpture Emma mentioned: https://wellcomecollection.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/perspectives-i-cant-help-the-way-i-feel/
– S08E03 Returning Cultural Objects: https://thecword.show/2020/10/14/s08e03-returning-cultural-objects/
– Epping Forest District Museum: https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/museum/
– Press release for Rationalisation Project: https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/museum/exciting-new-project-for-museums-collection/
– Article from Museums Essex about the project: https://museums-essex.org/2021/06/16/relevance-rationalise-and-recycle-epping-forest-district-museum-project/
– S02E01 Danger, Danger: https://thecword.show/2017/08/23/s02e01-danger-danger/
– Find-an-Object: https://www.museumsassociation.org/find-an-object/

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S10E06: Metals (Part 1)

Together with conservator Lucy Branch we iron out some of the issues around big chunks of metal: from bronze trying to injure people to the trouble with coatings! Also tune in for a Dear Jane about being your authentic self, and a review of ‘Modern Metals in Cultural Heritage’ from Jenny.

01:38 Wait, is bronze a possessed metal?
05:53 Health and safety – lead and iron
11:51 Dealing with outdoor objects
18:54 Let’s talk coatings and longevity!
23:44 Corrosion indoors
26:25 ‘Cleaning’ metals and authenticity
32:58 Corrosion in intriguing places
38:24 Getting metal back into shape
48:24 Dear Jane
54:21 Review: Modern Metals in Cultural Heritage – Understanding and Characterization

Show Notes:
– Check out Lucy’s work: https://antiquebronze.co.uk/
– Man With Arms Open: https://canarywharf.com/artwork/giles-penny-man-with-arms-open/
– Modern Metals in Cultural Heritage – Understanding and Characterization: https://shop.getty.edu/products/modern-metals-in-cultural-heritage-br-understanding-and-characterization-978-1606066058 and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Metals-Cultural-Heritage-Characterization/dp/1606066056

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S10E05: Aches and Pains

We talk about our creaking joints and aching muscles with special guest host Emma Le Cornu, who is both a conservator and a yoga instructor. Kloe talks about carpal tunnel woes, Jenny shares her pain management journey, and Emma gives us all some exercises to try out at work. Also tune in for a Dear Jane about careers derailed by the pandemic. Look after yourselves, folks!

01:38 In which ways are we broken?
12:59 Conservation as a physical job
16:27 The importance of movement
19:09 Colleagues’ reactions
21:16 Emma’s yoga journey
26:24 Managing and looking after others
33:45 Answers from Twitter
40:52 Some exercises to try out
55:51 Dear Jane

Show Notes:
– Follow Emma on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emmallecornu/
– Yoga with Adriene: https://www.youtube.com/user/yogawithadriene
– Carpal tunnel syndrome: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/carpal-tunnel-syndrome/
– Repetitive strain injury: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/repetitive-strain-injury-rsi/
– Sarah and Emma’s Twitter paper Get Up to Get Down from #IconTC in 2019: https://twitter.com/elecornu/status/1202203422407241728
– Just One Thing with Michael Mosley – Exercise Less, More Often: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000zljp
– Example of workstation assessment commonly found in workplaces: https://www.hse.gov.uk/msd/dse/assessment.htm
– Jenny’s rocking kneeling chair (approximately): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ergonomic-Kneeling-Wooden-Kneeler-Adjustable/dp/B08R6WWGKL/
– Twitter polls mentioned: https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1455152475674234889 + https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1455476445841592322 + https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1455902290376806407
– S03E04 Looking After Your Conservator: https://thecword.show/2018/05/02/s03e04-looking-after-your-conservator/

Emma’s top stretches to do at work
1. Wrists – praying stretch, self-massage – squeeze the toothpaste tube: https://www.healthline.com/health/chronic-pain/wrist-and-hand-stretches
2. Neck – look up, down, side to side, ear to shoulder with opposite arm extended out to side3. Upper back – twist from waist hold onto back of your chair
4. Feet – roll out on tennis ball or broom handle, sitting, or standing for more pressure
5. Balance – stand on one leg, try it with your eyes closed
6. Body scan – notice what feels good as well as not so good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNfv4UDBk6w
7. Squats (start with sitting down on a chair then getting back up without using your hands for help) go for 10 reps – leg muscle strengthener, core strengthener – protects joints, knees, increases ankle mobility, leg muscles are key to good mobility and everyday movements, also helps to maintain good posture
8. Legs up the wall – takes pressure off feet and veins in legs, drains fluids, also acts as a leg stretch

Other advice from Emma:
– Carrying something heavy in each hand around the house/studio, called a farmers carry – good for grip strength and overall strength!
– For those who enjoy running, joining a Parkrun – gamifies exercise, get milestone t-shirts, be part of a community, volunteering opportunities: https://www.parkrun.com/
– Hand eye body – coordination exercises: https://www.handeyebody.com/
– Walking barefoot, standing barefoot outside
– Change up your routine – the brain likes novelty!
– Breathing out slowly – calms the nervous system

Emma recommends following:
– Jenni Rawlings: https://www.instagram.com/jenni_rawlings/
– Lara Heiman LYT Yoga: https://www.instagram.com/lara.heimann/
– Hand Eye Body: https://www.instagram.com/handeyebody/
– FinolaPhysio: https://www.instagram.com/finolaphysio/

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S10E04: Halloween Special

Join us as we take a seat by an imaginary fireplace in a creepy old house and trade stories of hauntings, hazards, and house ghosts with special guest Aly Singh. We get interrupted by trick-or-treaters and feel unsettled by sudden changes in RH! Jenny also talks to historian Sheldon K. Goodman about Cemetery Club and to conservator Kathrine Graf about gravestones and churchyards. Also tune in for a creepy cocktail at the Benchwork Bar!

00:02:55 Jenny loves bats
00:04:16 Poetry intermission and touring ghosts
00:10:42 Getting to know your ghosts – and paranormal pets!
00:14:23 More ghost sightings at museums and historic properties
00:34:51 Things that genuinely scare conservators
00:38:16 Aly shares some spooky tour stories
00:42:58 Cemeteries and their charms
00:52:38 Interview with Sheldon K. Goodman
01:05:33 Interview with Kathrine Graf
01:16:55 Benchwork Bar: The Spider Bite
01:20:22 Patreon shout out

Show Notes:
– S08E04 Halloween special: https://thecword.show/2020/10/28/s08e04-halloween-special/
– Ingenium: https://ingeniumcanada.org/
– Haunted Walk of Ottawa: https://hauntedwalk.com/ottawa-tours/
– Aly Singh: https://www.alysingh.com/
– Historic England guidance on bats in buildings: https://historicengland.org.uk/advice/technical-advice/buildings/building-works-and-bats/
– S03E04 Churches: https://thecword.show/2018/04/18/s03e03-churches/
– Poem by True’s Yard Museum: https://twitter.com/Truesyardmuseum/status/1445721982784491520
– ABK does Every Haunted House Movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIwDqRXec4s
– A list of haunted museums (mostly in America): https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/70356/10-supposedly-haunted-museums
– Another list of haunted museums and historic houses (this time in the UK): https://www.artfund.org/whats-on/more-to-see-and-do/listicles/halloween-haunted-museums-houses
– Ghost in the window at Hampton Court Palace: https://www.hrp.org.uk/hampton-court-palace/history-and-stories/historic-hauntings-at-hampton-court-palace/
– Top 10 Haunted Objects in Museums: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5pwS-E5rv4
– Great Bed of Ware: https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/great-bed-of-ware
– 10 Things That Terrify Archivists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2S2J5kIb-M
– Ghosts – Spooky Stories and Eerie Encounters from the National Trust: https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9781905400379/Ghosts-Spooky-Stories-Eerie-Encounters-1905400373/plp
– ‘Life After Death’ article from the Museums Journal (paywall): https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/features/2021/07/life-after-death/
– Paris catacombs: https://www.catacombes.paris.fr/en
– St. Agatha’s Catacombs in Malta: https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g190326-d313276-Reviews-St_Agatha_s_Crypt_Catacombs_Museum-Rabat_Island_of_Malta.html
– Sheldon K. Goodman: https://www.sheldonkgoodman.com/
– Cemetery Club: https://cemeteryclub.wordpress.com/
– Go follow Sheldon on Twitter: https://twitter.com/sheldonkgoodman
– Harold Mytum’s blog: https://hmytum.wordpress.com/historical-mortuary-archaeology/
– Discovering England’s Burial Spaces: http://www.debs.ac.uk/
– Connect with Kathrine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathrine-graf-4b310aa6/
– Go follow Amanda on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ConserveItAll

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S10E03: Career Changes

Together with special guest host Erin Foster we discuss the careers people have had before finding conservation, why they might have switched, and why so many of us find out about conservation a little later in life. Also tune in for an apprenticeship update from Icon and a review of ‘Managing Change in Museums and Galleries’ from Jenny.

01:16 Why do people come to conservation later in life?
05:06 What did WE do (or intend to do) in a previous life
10:18 Stories from listeners
20:59 Career aptitude tests and advice at the right age
33:23 An update on apprenticeships
36:09 Sharing and demystifying
38:46 More listener stories
42:40 Review: Managing Change in Museums and Galleries

Show Notes:
– Follow Erin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/travelconserve
– Ötzi the iceman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi
– Jonathan Ashley-Smith’s interview about craft skills: https://thecword.show/2017/04/26/s01e05-emerging-professionals/
– More about conservation apprenticeships: https://www.icon.org.uk/training/conservation-apprenticeships.html
– Operation Night Watch: https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/whats-on/exhibitions/operation-night-watch
– Managing Change in Museums and Galleries – A Practical Guide: https://www.routledge.com/Managing-Change-in-Museums-and-Galleries-A-Practical-Guide/Bienkowski-McGowan/p/book/9780367858506

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S10E02: Working with Curators

We’re joined by special guest host Helen Antrobus as we unpack what it means to be a collections curator and how we can (and do) work together to deliver some amazing things. Tune in for discussions around job titles, working with community curators, and why we should pay for expertise.

01:39 What even is a curator?
14:34 Our experiences of working with curators
23:23 Can we change attitudes to curation?
31:16 Community curation and collaborations
38:48 The curator-conservator symbiosis
44:59 Helen’s path to curatorhood
50:59 How we can help one another

Show Notes:
– S07E04 Working with Techs: https://thecword.show/2020/05/27/s07e04-working-with-techs/
– S09E01 Working with Front of House: https://thecword.show/2021/03/24/s09e01-working-with-front-of-house/
– S03E01 Taking a Stand: https://thecword.show/2018/03/21/s03e01-taking-a-stand/
– Follow Helen Antrobus on Twitter: https://twitter.com/helenantrobus
– Lexico definition: https://www.lexico.com/definition/curator
– Tate definition: https://www.tate.org.uk/art/art-terms/c/curator
– Macmillan definition: https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/curator
– Cambridge definition: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/curator
– Wikipedia definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curator
– #AskACurator Day: https://twitter.com/askacurator
– S05E06 Touchy Feely: https://thecword.show/2019/05/29/s05e06-touchy-feely/
– Salford Museum & Art Gallery: https://salfordmuseum.com/
– People’s History Museum: https://phm.org.uk/
– The Royal Oak Conservation Studio: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/the-royal-oak-foundation-conservation-studio

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Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Helen Antrobus.

Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.

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A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

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