The C Word

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Join us on a tranquil houseboat as we talk about being conservators with disabilities with special guest host Pierrette Squires. We share our various experiences and set the world to rights (with ducks in the background). Also tune in for a Dear Jane about accreditation, a tour of the new ‘Nothing About Us Without Us’ exhibition with Kloe, and a review of ‘The Routledge Companion to Art and Disability’ from Jenny.

00:01:35 Jenny’s experiences
00:03:53 Pierrette’s hearing loss
00:07:09 Kloe’s struggles
00:12:46 Relating to others and appreciating yourself
00:17:55 Shout out to placement students with disabilities
00:19:17 Are there more disabled conservators now?
00:21:01 Recruitment and the fear of discrimination
00:25:37 How to be a more supportive workplace
00:33:33 How flexible working has transformed our health
00:36:40 Training ahead of an exhibition
00:42:21 How society (and conservation) disables us
00:44:00 Reactions to disability and access issues
00:52:29 Disability represented in museum collections
00:58:18 Access for visitors: lights, touch, and adjustments
01:07:00 CPD issues
01:11:34 Discussion of the AIC report
01:20:37 Dear Jane
01:26:20 Review: The Routledge Companion to Art and Disability
01:32:29 Kloe takes us behind the scenes

Show Notes:
– Equality Act 2010: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/equality-act-2010-guidance
– Definition of disability under the Equality Act 2010: https://www.gov.uk/definition-of-disability-under-equality-act-2010
– Menieres disease: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/menieres-disease/
– S01E01 Demographics: https://thecword.show/2017/02/15/demographics/
– Adult ADHD screening test: https://adhduk.co.uk/adult-adhd-screening-survey/
– Work of the Icon Diversity & Inclusion Task & Finish Group: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource-report/diversity-and-inclusion-task-and-finish-group-report.html
– Exhibition about disabled people’s activism: https://phm.org.uk/exhibitions/nothing-about-us-without-us-3/
– Social vs medical model of disability: https://www.ombudsman.org.uk/sites/default/files/FDN-218144_Introduction_to_the_Social_and_Medical_Models_of_Disability.pdf
– Greater Manchester Coalition of Disabled People: https://gmcdp.com/
– Spoon theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory
– S05E06 Touchy Feely: https://thecword.show/2019/05/29/s05e06-touchy-feely/
– Accessibility in Conservation Survey report from AIC: https://www.culturalheritage.org/docs/default-source/publications/reports/survey-reports/accessibility-in-conservation-report.pdf
– The Routledge Companion to Art and Disability: https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Art-and-Disability/Watson-Hiles/p/book/9780367444785

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Jenny and Kloe share some conservation horror stories, including mysterious tales of possessed equipment and phantasmal fans. Break it down to our Halloween song ‘The Monstrous Crash’ and then wind down with a review of ‘Ghost Stories of the British Museum Audio Guide’ by Noah Angell. Finally Jenny shares some pumpkin preservation tips for everyone’s Halloween needs!

02:59 Can anyone offer us a haunted place to visit?
04:23 Jenny’s possessed air quality monitor
06:40 Kloe’s mysterious fan incident
15:26 What’s the spookiest museum object you’ve ever come across?
19:16 What’s the scariest thing you’ve found in the store?
27:50 The scariest job offers
29:50 Kloe’s addendum on The Fan Incident
31:40 The Monstrous Crash
35:27 Review: Ghost Stories of the British Museum Audio Guide
38:02 Comments, questions, corrections
38:33 Pumpkin preservation

Show Notes:
– S08E04 Halloween Special: https://thecword.show/2020/10/28/s08e04-halloween-special/
– S10E04 Halloween Special: https://thecword.show/2021/10/28/s10e04-halloween-special/
– European Day of Conservation-Restoration: https://www.ecco-eu.org/european-day-of-conservation-restoration/
– S09E06 Leather: https://thecword.show/2021/06/02/s09e06-leather/
– S01E02 Human Remains: https://thecword.show/2017/03/15/s01e02-human-remains/
– S07E02 Frightful Beasts and Where to Find Them: https://thecword.show/2020/04/29/s07e02-frightful-beasts-and-where-to-find-them/
– Spitting Image (TV series): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spitting_Image
– S02E05 Modern Materials: https://thecword.show/2017/10/18/s02e05-modern-materials/
– Meaco environmental monitoring (to verify hauntings): https://meaco.co.uk/
– Ghost Stories of the British Museum Audio Guide: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/ghost-stories-of-the-british-museum-audio-guide/1529228148
– S12E03 Gemstones and Minerals: https://thecword.show/2022/10/12/s12e03-gemstones-and-minerals/
– Making your jack-o-lantern last longer: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/guides/how-to-make-your-pumpkins-last-longer/

***

The Monstrous Crash (vocals by Steve Waddington and the Case Kickers, lyrics by Jenny Mathiasson, James Baillie, Ross Graham and Morgan Fox)

I was working in the lab late one night,
When an eerie noise gave me a fright
I heard new voices I did not recognise,
And suddenly to my surprise,

(There was a crash) There was a monstrous crash!
(A monstrous crash) Something reduced to trash
(There was a crash) I set off at a dash!

(There was a crash) What a monstrous crash!

With gloves in hand I dashed down the hall

No answers from paintings, hung upon the walls
No response from the medieval gallery where
An armoured suit gave me a steely glare…

(There was a crash) There was a monstrous crash!
(A monstrous crash) Something reduced to trash
(There was a crash) I set off at a dash!

(There was a crash) What a monstrous crash!

This report will not be fun, telling bosses what’s been done

The mess might be abhorrent – my work may be undone!

And I rounded the corner, in quite a fright,

But just got stony looks from all the ammonites,
Then the burial goods it was time to brave,
Where votive figures are all silent as the grave

(There was a crash) There was a monstrous crash!
(A monstrous crash) Something reduced to trash
(There was a crash) I set off at a dash!

(There was a crash) What a monstrous crash!

And at last at the gift shop I found the noise,
Where the night guard who our museum employs,
Had tripped over the soft toys’ rack, but then,
Said “Why are you here? It’s 2am!”

(There was a crash) There was a monstrous crash!
(A monstrous crash) Something reduced to trash
(There was a crash) I set off at a dash!

(There was a crash) What a monstrous crash!

So back to my office it was time to creep,

The legionary in his coffin went back to sleep,
But then I heard a distant, case-rattling roar…
Probably the mould beast on the basement floor

(There was a crash) There was a monstrous crash!
(A monstrous crash) Something reduced to trash
(There was a crash) I set off at a dash!

(There was a crash) What a monstrous crash!

Wah-ooh, argh, monstrous crash, no good, wah-ooh

At least it’s not as scary as china repairs done with sellotape…
Wah-ooh, argh, monstrous crash, no good, wah-ooh
Oops… My bad!

***

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We’re joined by the brilliant jewellery conservator Bill Hawkes for a dazzling episode about the history of gems, the usefulness of pretty stones, and the intriguing secrets of the jewellery industry. Also tune in for an interview with geological conservator Kate Andrew about the hidden dangers of rock samples and why you should never bin an old label!

01:43 What are minerals?
03:00 Uses of gemstones – light, fading, and lasers!
06:14 Famous diamonds and their history
10:38 Cutting gemstones now and in the past
14:09 More gemstone chemistry
26:27 Hardness vs toughness
33:05 How do you identify gemstones?
41:41 How mucky jewellery gets and cleaning strategies
46:59 What to do if you don’t know what you’ve got
48:43 Pigments and other uses of minerals
52:22 Organic gemstones
56:35 Interview with Kate Andrew

Show Notes:
– S11E02 Metals (Part 2): https://thecword.show/2022/05/18/s11e05-metals-part-2/
– Bill’s website: https://www.williamhawkes.co.uk/
– Lasers and gemstones: https://www.illinoisscience.org/2019/01/surprising-uses-gemstones-ruby-laser/
– Koh-i-Noor diamond: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh-i-Noor
– Cullinan diamond: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cullinan_Diamond
– Black Prince’s Ruby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Prince%27s_Ruby
– Mohs scale of hardness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness
– Gemstone colour chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/06/29/what-causes-the-colour-of-gemstones/
– Gemmological Association of Great Britain: https://gem-a.com/
– National Association of Jewellers: https://www.naj.co.uk/
– Gemological Institute of America: https://www.gia.edu/
– Icon’s guidance on geological specimens: http://natsca.org/sites/default/files/publications-full/care-and-conservation-of-geological-specimens.pdf

Reading recommendations from Bill and Kate:
– Gemstones by Cally Hall: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gemstones-Cally-Hall/dp/0241436184/
– The Retail Jeweller’s Guide by Kenneth Blakemore: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Retail-Jewellers-Guide-Kenneth-Blakemore/dp/0719800331
– Care and Conservation of Geological Materials by Frank Howie: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Care-Conservation-Geological-Material-Meteorites/dp/0750603712/

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We have a gentle (but also angry) chat about the cost of living crisis, the impact on society, and how it affects us as conservators: both as self-employed people and as museum workers. Jenny also talks to Sharon Heal from the Museums Association, and Kloe reviews ‘Low Cost/No Cost Tips for Sustainability in Cultural Heritage’ by Lorraine Finch.

01:57 Why are we NOT talking about this?
04:11 Jenny’s lived experience of poverty
08:09 Why this is happening
11:01 Energy usage and greener thinking
13:10 Relief schemes, price caps and the impact on us
18:50 Interview with Sharon Heal
33:32 Some useful resources
43:59 Review: Low Cost/No Cost Tips for Sustainability in Cultural Heritage

Show Notes:
– AIM Cost of Living Survey: https://aim-museums.co.uk/aim-cost-living-survey/
– Museums and libraries to set up as warm banks: https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/22/libraries-and-museums-form-warm-refuges-amid-energy-crisis-17225833/
– Energy crisis may hamper museum plans of being ‘warm banks’ this winter: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/aug/31/uk-museums-rising-energy-costs-could-hamper-warm-banks-plan
– Citizen Advice Bureau: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/get-help-with-the-cost-of-living/
– Business energy costs to be cut: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62969427
– Museums Journal piece on energy relief scheme: https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2022/09/sector-welcomes-energy-relief-but-calls-for-ongoing-investment/
– Museums Association statement on cost of living crisis: https://www.museumsassociation.org/campaigns/advocacy/our-statement-on-the-cost-of-living-crisis/
– Managing the cost of living crisis (via MA Well-Being Hub): https://www.museumsassociation.org/careers/wellbeing-hub/managing-the-cost-of-living-crisis/
– Energy Bill Relief Scheme: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/energy-bill-relief-scheme-help-for-businesses-and-other-non-domestic-customers
– Warm banks to get money from Welsh government: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-62968256
– Thread with ideas in collaboration with the Job Centre: https://twitter.com/eleanor_root/status/1564522591003578369
– Direct link to Google document with crowdsourced ideas: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PCdd3cPjgxH-Wd85TEXZBfqw2-ay7VjokTi1ekwHSMo/edit
– S09E04 Environmental Monitoring: https://thecword.show/2021/05/05/s09e04-environmental-monitoring/
– S04E01 Going Green: https://thecword.show/2018/09/19/s04e01-going-green/
– S06E01 Conservation on a Budget: https://thecword.show/2019/09/18/s06e01-conservation-on-a-budget/
– Mayor asks museums to close two days per week: https://news.artnet.com/art-world/energy-crisis-european-museums-2170843
– Low Cost/No Cost Tips for Sustainability in Cultural Heritage: https://lfcp.co.uk/publications/

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Together with Beth Gillions we put on our best confidence clothes and talk about job interviews: what it’s like asking the questions, what do you do when you forget everything about yourself, and what are the practical assessments like for job seeking conservators? We share our top tips and some great advice from our followers on Twitter too!

00:02:10 Kloe and Jenny’s experiences of being on interview panels
00:05:37 “Is there anything you’d like to ask us?”
00:08:34 Everything we hate about interviews
00:10:47 How do you deal with nerves beforehand?
00:20:16 Being on the other side of the table
00:23:26 Typical questions you might come across
00:28:21 Getting the questions in advance
00:34:03 What do you do when your mind goes blank?
00:37:24 Different types of interviews
00:54:27 What to do after the interview
00:58:06 Asking for feedback
01:00:33 Our final top tips
01:02:34 Comments, questions and corrections
01:06:39 Patreon shout out

Show Notes:
– Follow Beth on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bethgillions
– S05E05 Portfolio Extravaganza: https://thecword.show/2019/05/15/s05e05-portfolio-extravaganza/
– Twitter thread about dealing with nerves: https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1518225244598816768
– Check out Icon News for ‘Moving On Up’ career advice sections: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/icon-news.html
– Twitter thread about mind going blank: https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1518907490125197312
– Twitter thread about follow-up and aftercare: https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1522172504390832128

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Come along on a roadtrip to the Isle of Man with Jenny and Kloe! We take the ferry across the water, stay in an eco-friendly yurt village, and tour the island’s heritage sites: we go behind the scenes with the Manx National Heritage conservators and enjoy the local sites. Special thanks to Chris Weeks and Emma Le Cornu for inviting us over! (Varied audio quality ahead, folks.)

00:00:55 Exploring the ferry and eating waffles on deck
00:02:13 Arriving in the eco village
00:04:50 Breakfast time!
00:05:31 Manx Museum
00:14:52 They found us!
00:23:30 Climate change
00:24:57 Sites to see on the island
00:29:24 Back in the conservation studio
00:48:26 Meeting Peggy
01:00:15 Snooping around the museum store
01:05:35 Exploring the archival side
01:14:00 Jenny spots a mysterious box
01:17:25 Peeking in the textiles store
01:18:57 Castletown in the rain
01:21:15 Cregneash village
01:25:00 Day out in Peel with Emma
01:29:27 Summing up our Saturday by the fire
01:30:35 Checking out
01:32:13 Laxey, big wheels and going under ground
01:39:47 Grove Museum of Victorian Life
01:50:38 Afternoon tea in Bride and a failed beach visit
01:53:39 Milntown Estate and Gardens
02:02:13 Back to the ferry

Show Notes:
– The ferry: https://www.steam-packet.com/ourvessels/ben-my-chree
– Where Jenny and Kloe stayed: https://www.sabasglenyurt.com/
– Manx Museum: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/manx-museum/
– Speed and Light exhibition: https://manxnationalheritage.im/whats-on/detail/speed-and-light-a-painted-journey-around-the-world-famous-isle-of-man-tt-course/
– Conservation of the giant deer skeleton: https://manxnationalheritage.im/collections/conservation/conservation-of-the-giant-deer-skeleton/
– Illiam Dhone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illiam_Dhone
– Manx cat breed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_cat
– Manx National Heritage: https://manxnationalheritage.im/
– Culture Vannin: https://culturevannin.im/
– Learn Manx Gaelic: https://www.learnmanx.com/
– Isle of Man TT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man_TT
– Conservation of the Laxey Wheel: https://manxnationalheritage.im/news-2-2
– The world’s largest slug: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-14617478
– Wild wallabies: https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2021-10-13/the-mystery-of-the-wild-wallabies-living-on-the-isle-of-man
– IMuseum: https://www.imuseum.im/
– Vida La Fierce: https://bearworldmag.com/anthony-meets-miss-vida-la-fierce/
– Zenzie Tinker Conservation: https://www.zenzietinker.co.uk/
– Archibald Knox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Knox_(designer)
– Peggy on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_of_Castletown
– Peggy on Manx Heritage: https://manxnationalheritage.im/collections/conservation/news-2/
– Peggy’s paint analysis: https://www.lincolnconservation.co.uk/projects/the-18th-century-sailing-yacht-peggy/
– Inergen fire suppression system: https://www.firesuppression.co.uk/inergen.aspx
– Thermoskyships: https://www.airshipsonline.com/sheds/Jurby.htm
– The Parish Walk: https://www.parishwalk.com/
– Nautical Museum: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/nautical-museum/
– Cregneash: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/cregneash/
– Peel castle: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/peel-castle/
– Viking longboat races: https://www.visitiom.co.uk/events/world-championships/world-championship-viking-longboat-races/
– House of Manannan: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/house-of-manannan/
– Traders of the Lost Arts exhibition: https://manxnationalheritage.im/whats-on/detail/traders-of-the-lost-arts-an-exhibition/
– Davison’s ice cream: https://davisons.co.im/
– Trams: https://manxelectricrailway.co.uk/current-timetable/
– Laxey Wheel: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/laxey-wheel/
– Grove Museum of Victorian Life: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/grove-museum-of-victorian-life/
– Bride Tea Rooms and Bistro: https://bridetearooms.weebly.com/
– Point of Are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_Ayre
– Milntown: https://www.milntown.org/

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We’re joined by Tom Hopkins and Louise McAward-White from Fair Museum Jobs as we grab the imaginary tin opener and get into one of our favourite cans of worms: zero hour contracts! We unpick what they are, how they’re used in the heritage sector, why they’re problematic, and how we can do better.

00:01:33 What is exactly is a zero hours contract?
00:11:00 Examples of when they’re used
00:16:27 Which precarity is easier to manage?
00:18:48 The toll of constant job hopping on people
00:26:11 Conservation examples of ‘casual’ contracts
00:37:31 The advert that sparked this whole episode
00:50:25 Join your union!
00:55:47 How we can influence things for the better
00:57:21 Feedback from Icon and what professional bodies can do
01:06:03 Kloe’s fury
01:09:12 Patreon shout-out

Show Notes:
– Fair Museum Jobs: https://fairmuseumjobs.org/
– Go follow Fair Museum Jobs on Twitter: https://twitter.com/fair_jobs
– UK government guidance on zero hours contracts: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/zero-hours-contracts-guidance-for-employers/zero-hours-contracts-guidance-for-employers and https://www.gov.uk/contract-types-and-employer-responsibilities/zero-hour-contracts
– Real Living Wage: https://www.livingwage.org.uk/what-real-living-wage
– Original V&A advert: https://app.vacancy-filler.co.uk/salescrm/Careers/CareersPage.aspx?e=LMo8nnTwYNYfjktgP-fk0v6HGHzjT7BnKoEpbcWUTJ9HNxQKjRUu0bwwoQNJy93jy5HLY4Ds_WQ&iframe=false&HideCareersLink=true
– PDF copy of V&A advert: https://thecword.show/podcast/ConservationZeroHourWorkerPoolAdvert.pdf
– Museum Freelance report: https://fairmuseumjobs.org/resources/
– Icon strategy: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/icon-strategy.html
– Icon Salaries Survey 2022: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/conservation-salaries-survey-2022.html

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Join us for our triennial Icon conference special: an all online experience this time! Jenny tries to get into the spirit with croissants and rubbish coffee while Kloe is enjoying being able to multitask and dyeing fabrics while listening in. Also tune in for some impressions from the recent AIC conference.

04:32 Reaching out for recognition as a theme
08:50 Conference prices in the sector
10:17 Kloe is confused by tech
12:46 Catching up at the end of day one
17:12 Gearing up for day two
21:54 The unexpected blessing of being alone
22:31 Barely having time to eat lunch – a conference classic!
24:21 Round-up at end of day two
29:57 Feedback systems and our niggles
36:18 AIC conference interviews
45:56 Patreon shout out

Show Notes:
– Icon triennial conference programme 2022: https://www.icon.org.uk/about-us/our-work/icon-conferences/icon-conference-2022-reaching-out-for-recognition.html
– S05E08 #Icon19 Conference Special: https://thecword.show/2019/06/26/s05e08-icon19-conference-special/
– Example of people who caption events: https://www.stagetext.org/
– APOYOnline network: https://apoyonline.org/en_US/
– Twitter conference hashtag search: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23IconReachOut22&src=typed_query
– AIC at 50 conference: https://www.culturalheritage.org/events/annual-meeting/current-meeting

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Together with special guest host Bill Hawkes we continue the topic of shiny things: metals! This time dealing with small objects and shiny trinkets. Kloe talks to Dr Eric Nordgren about archaeological metals, and Jenny reviews ‘Histories of Conservation and Art History in Modern Europe’ as well.

00:01:27 From jewellery shops to the conservation workbench
00:05:20 Towards a sustainable alternative to silver dips
00:10:08 Values around tarnished surfaces
00:17:59 Advancements in modern metallurgy
00:22:03 The tricky nature of surfaces
00:27:08 The beauty of corrosion
00:30:11 From boring to fascinating to dangerous metals
00:36:28 Gemstones galore
00:40:22 Repair methods
00:44:55 Quills, thorns, feathers, and the common cocktail stick!
00:47:05 Interview with Dr Eric Nordgren
01:02:17 Review: Histories of Conservation and Art History in Modern Europe

Show Notes:
– S10E06 Metals (Part 1): https://thecword.show/2021/11/24/s10e06-metals-part-1/
– Bill’s website: https://www.williamhawkes.co.uk/
– West Dean College’s metalwork conservation specialism: https://www.westdean.org.uk/study/specialisms/metalwork
– S10E03 Career Changes: https://thecword.show/2021/10/13/s10e03-career-changes/
– How silver dips work: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes/care-silver.html
– Argentium silver: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentium_sterling_silver
– Rhodium plating: https://www.jewelryshoppingguide.com/everything-about-rhodium-plating/
– An example of the kind of toy restoration videos Jenny watches (warning, this is OTT!): https://www.youtube.com/c/baremetalHW/videos or https://www.youtube.com/c/RescueRestore
– The Twitter thread mentioned: https://twitter.com/amaliasl/status/1523420586495516673
– Gemstone chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/06/29/what-causes-the-colour-of-gemstones/
– Thorn usage in conservation: http://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/conservation-journal/using-thorns-to-conserve-the-hoard.html
– Eric Nordgren: https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/people/view/2599291-nordgren-eric
– Histories of Conservation and Art History in Modern Europe: https://www.routledge.com/Histories-of-Conservation-and-Art-History-in-Modern-Europe/Dupre-Boulboulle/p/book/9780367650070

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Together with special guest hosts Claire Fry and Lorraine Finch we take a walk on the private practice side of conservation: what’s it like starting and running a business? Kloe has a zillion questions as Jenny airs her insecurities as a new business owner, while Claire and Lorraine share their entrepreneurial insights with us all. From networking to number crunching, we cover a lot of ground in this one!

00:01:50 How many conservators are self-employed?
00:07:04 The value of business support
00:14:24 Support structures: financial and emotional
00:18:36 You make the rules – and ALL the decisions
00:22:02 Insurance, cash flow, and pensions
00:28:12 Taxes and the joys of accountancy
00:32:48 Getting your name out there
00:40:05 Estimates don’t last forever
00:42:33 Value your work, expertise, and time
00:47:22 Working with others
00:54:31 What’s the best thing about running a business?
00:55:17 Quick addendum

Show Notes:
– Find Claire on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/clairefry1
– Spencer and Fry: https://www.spencerandfry.co.uk/
– Lorraine Finch: https://lfcp.co.uk/ and https://uk.linkedin.com/in/lorraine-finch-8ba97540
– Jenny’s business: https://kuriosa.co.uk/
– Find support in your local area: https://www.gov.uk/business-support-helpline
– Business & IP Centre: https://www.bl.uk/business-and-ip-centre
– Natwest Women in Business Support: https://www.natwest.com/business/business-services/women-in-business.html
– S02E03 Freelancing: https://thecword.show/2017/09/22/s02e03-freelancing/
– Jenny’s insurance broker: https://www.artinsurance.co.uk/
– Nest pensions: https://www.nestpensions.org.uk/
– Aviva pension for the self-employed: https://www.aviva.co.uk/retirement/retirement-planning/self-employed-pension/
– Xero accounting software: https://www.xero.com/uk/
– The Conservation Register: https://www.conservationregister.com/
– Museum Freelance report: https://fairmuseumjobs.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/36a00-museumfreelancesurveyfindingsandinsight2020.pdf
– Running a community interest company in conservation: https://natsca.blog/2021/12/16/starting-a-social-business-connect-conserve-cyswllt-cadwraeth-cymru/
– Lorraine’s book: https://lfcp.co.uk/publications/

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Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Lorraine Finch, and Claire Fry.

Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.

A Wooden Dice production, 2022.